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Chris Shaw is the frontman and bandleader of punk band Ex-Cult. He’s also the frontman of GØGGS and Richard Rose. He’s been making music as Ex-Cult for over eight years. He also manages PR for other bands and does various odd-jobs, essentially anything that gives him the flexibility to sustain his creative vision.

In this episode, we talk about what it means to be in a punk band today, what has happened to the punk culture, how he has designed a life that works for his dreams, gaining perspective, his songwriting process, tips for working with labels vs. self-releasing music, and more. Listen above or on iTunes or Spotify.

Show notes

In this episode, we talk about:

  • His experience moving from Memphis to LA as a musician
  • Managing the logistics of band members on opposite sides of the country
  • Finding jobs/income streams that allow for a flexible schedule and autonomy
  • Managing his role as primary manager and promoter of Ex-Cult
  • How exploitation of punk culture and overuse of the term “punk” has diluted its true meaning and message as a genre, culture, and movement
  • How Mark E. Smith and The Fall stayed true to their creative vision and were still successful
  • His desire for Ex-Cult to have their own record label one day
  • How musicians can self-release their music and have just as strong as an impact as w/ a label
  • How waiting to tour Europe created a better experience for everyone in the long-run
  • The importance of finding a like-minded label and how they found that with In the Red
  • Remembering to reflect and gain perspective on how far you’ve come
  • His writing process and how he’s learned to trust himself
  • Why self-doubt is a good thing as an artist
  • How he uses a live performance of a song as the measure if it’s done

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